sam 21/02/20 12:53 pm sam: (8:51 PM) what do u mean roy was talking
to vc
Marc: (8:52 PM) valueclick
sam: (8:52 PM) btw, which wembasters were
spreading rumor
Marc: (8:52 PM) heard it from t-rex
sam: (8:53 PM) oh, screw him .. he cheated us
with the 1x1 pixel and i caught him 4 months
ago.. and we kicked him out
sam 21/02/20 12:54 pm btw, i did a deal with Defender, owner of one
of the mp3 sites today.. he gets to maintain
all of our mp3 sites.. for 1cpmU.. for a max
of $2500 per month..he'll maintain 10 sites
for us.
i have to get him a contract..
sam 21/02/20 11:02 pm Hey have you been talking to Thomas about the
renegotiations w/ the french sites?
sam 21/02/20 11:43 pm Swedie (ICQ#20386173) Wrote:
hey,
I haven't recieved any money yet.. and I
haven't recieved and email from Bryan as I
suspected.
bryant 21/02/20 11:45 pm Who is that?
sam 21/02/20 11:46 pm just fwding you everything i get
thats demonews.com
bryant 21/02/20 11:46 pm I'll ask Brian about them. I asked him to
touch base.
On the ph with Astalavista right now btw.
sam 21/02/20 11:46 pm k
bryant 21/02/20 11:47 pm Can you live with breaking their back pay up
every 3mos over like 18 months or something?
sam 21/02/20 11:48 pm that'd be harder and a struggle to do.. but
better than nothing.. we might not live upto
it, but give it a shot...it has to start in 3
months though (obviously)
sam 21/02/20 11:54 pm hm his backpay seems wrong (astalavista) do u
have his contract handy
bryant 22/02/20 12:01 am looking for it now.
bryant 22/02/20 12:03 am $8k base at 6mm pvs, $1100 for ever 1mm above
base.
sam 22/02/20 12:04 am the new figures would be
5650 for feb 19
19150 backpay balance
bryant 22/02/20 12:04 am I show them as;
11/00 - 11,901,703
12/00 - 9,892,823
01/01 - 8,780,933
sam 22/02/20 12:05 am no..because in january he used his own banner
and put ours at the bottom. he also had no
webguide
in january we count webguide impressions
bryant 22/02/20 12:05 am That's a little bit less. Hmm.
bryant 22/02/20 12:05 am Ah right, okay.
sam 22/02/20 12:05 am and you have the nov and dec figures reversed
bryant 22/02/20 12:06 am Hmm, that's strange. I've got the system
reports printed out and they're dated. Must
have been a bug or something.
sam 22/02/20 12:06 am but thats the new figure according to base
level pay
i dont think bill gave me the right
spreadsheet.. he's prorating the payments
upwards in the same manner its prorated
downwards..
so on big amounts, i'd doublecheck
bryant 22/02/20 12:07 am ok
sam 22/02/20 12:07 am ok..either way, if u reverse the nov and dec,
its the same payments
sam 22/02/20 12:07 am also, the figures go through an internal
audit check for cheating, refreshes, pops,
etc. traffic usually does that (drazen used
to)
bryant 22/02/20 12:07 am If we tack on $1k per month, that's the rough
equivalent of paying them a 2.5cpmU anyway.
That work?
bryant 22/02/20 12:08 am MIght be easier than more every 3.
bryant 22/02/20 12:08 am Less impact.
sam 22/02/20 12:08 am oh u mean no backpay then?
bryant 22/02/20 12:08 am Yeah, we'll stop it when their backpay is
done. So we don't have to pay it forever.
bryant 22/02/20 12:08 am They're at a 2.0
sam 22/02/20 12:09 am ohh.. i see..hm.. only thing is we have to pay
more every month right..than every 3 months?
sam 22/02/20 12:09 am (cashflow)
bryant 22/02/20 12:09 am I'm just thinking paying less per month might
be easier than larger amounts every 3.
sam 22/02/20 12:10 am okay. im okay with that.. and we'll stop it
when his backpay is done?
bryant 22/02/20 12:10 am Obviously we're going to work as many backpays
at the end of the contract (or deal out at
cents on the dollar) with most sites, Asta is
a keeper though.
sam 22/02/20 12:11 am okay.. you should probably have the flexbility
to do what it takes.. just remember the
parameters.. the less the better, the more in
the future the better
sam 22/02/20 12:11 am it will allow us to meet our obligations
bryant 22/02/20 12:11 am Certainly. Actually, giving them $1k a month
is less than paying them a 2.5
sam 22/02/20 12:12 am yeah.. they get good uniques
bryant 22/02/20 12:12 am 2.0 = 6814 (+1000 = 7814), 2.5 = 8517.5
bryant 22/02/20 12:12 am They were demanding all the back money up
front before they sign anything.
sam 22/02/20 12:12 am he didnt go for every 3 months?
sam 22/02/20 12:12 am aha ok
sam 22/02/20 12:13 am just so u know, he tried to run different ads
on the top banner.. and i dont hhink he could
find a suitable outlet..he's running text
links there now
bryant 22/02/20 12:13 am We can do like $3k every 3 (they want like 10k
every 3, lol), but I just think it might be
harder on us when it hits.
bryant 22/02/20 12:14 am per mo on this one minimizes the impact.
Basically it equates to us agreeing to pay
them a 2.29cpmU for a while.
sam 22/02/20 12:14 am yeah.. 1k/mo is fine i suppose.
try not to do more than 5-10 of those.. cuz
then thats 5-10k/month extra for however
long..
also, we're more in a cashflow hole now...it
could be alot better in 3 months because we
have invested people and resources into
diversifying our revenue streams
bryant 22/02/20 12:15 am Yeah. I only see a few sites I'm willing to
talk to about that type of arrangement. Asta
is one of them.
sam 22/02/20 12:16 am ok.. u might have a pot for each gruop..
like some sites, nothing
some sites @ end of contract only
some sites every quarter over 3 years or 18
months
some sites 1k/mo
sam 22/02/20 12:16 am helps us spradit
bryant 22/02/20 12:16 am That last group should end up being less than
5
sam 22/02/20 12:16 am also i changed the SA cntract after u had sent
it
bryant 22/02/20 12:16 am What part?
sam 22/02/20 12:17 am i made it so that
"total is 27,762, payble atthe following
schedule: 2500 for the first month and 1000
for every month thereafter until whole is
satisfied"
also added net 30
that way his next 1k isnt due until april 30
sam 22/02/20 12:17 am make sense?
bryant 22/02/20 12:18 am Yeah, it's a lot cleaner. Heh, rushed that
one off.
bryant 22/02/20 12:18 am Cool.
sam 22/02/20 12:19 am thats ok :) g3 was frantic cuz lowtax barged
into his office saying where's the money. i
told g3 to send him home and make hime come
back lter:)
bryant 22/02/20 12:19 am Heh
bryant 22/02/20 12:22 am Hebus is ready to remove any/all illegal
content. Any issue with bringing them online?
sam 22/02/20 12:22 am no not at all
sam 22/02/20 12:22 am lets do it
bryant 22/02/20 12:23 am Thought you were in San Fran today?
sam 22/02/20 12:23 am first flighth is booked.. next one is @
10:50.. so i might as well work while i wait
bryant 22/02/20 12:30 am What did Hebus have on there causing the
problems?
sam 22/02/20 12:31 am not really sure.. i didnt even know there was
anyting causing a problem.. marcF just told me
that this morning..but i would imagine maybe
celeb pics
bryant 22/02/20 12:44 am 5650 for 2/19 and then 19150 backpay, right?
Or does the 19150 include the 5650?
sam 22/02/20 12:45 am yup thats right.. 19k is separate
bryant 22/02/20 12:45 am ok thx. Just getting their addendum out.
sam 22/02/20 12:46 am great.. bill is asking me how much $ we're
going to send out this week..
whats ur guess.. 30-40k worth of backpay?
sam 22/02/20 12:46 am er feb 19 payments
bryant 22/02/20 12:47 am Almost impossible to guess. I'd certainly say
a fraction of the whole, but the question is
how much.
bryant 22/02/20 12:47 am I'd say 30-40 should cover us for this week.
sam 22/02/20 12:48 am ok great
bryant 22/02/20 12:48 am If it starts to get close to that we'll tap
dance a little bit and defer people to next
week.
bryant 22/02/20 12:48 am So I'll keep a running tab.
sam 22/02/20 12:49 am actually id prefer to just get the contracts
signed.. about is sending us 150k .. i signed
the contract today.. so by the time it clears
and all.. we should be ok
bryant 22/02/20 12:49 am ok, then I won't worry about it.
sam 22/02/20 11:20 am hey.. have you talked to jarretc
(beautifulcelebrities.com). he keeps calling
me.
sam 23/02/20 10:51 am I'm talking to Scott/Gr right now
sam 23/02/20 10:51 am brian was working on him i think right
bryant 23/02/20 11:04 am Yeah, Brian was.
sam 23/02/20 11:06 am i can get him on board.. im talking to him
now.. he hates g3 :)
bryant 23/02/20 11:29 am Heh. There's something to use. =)
sam 23/02/20 11:32 am Actually Scott gavem e some good ideas. I
asked G3 to setup a meeting with Jo. I want
Jo to send out a weekly newsletter that
actually has good information.. I think she
can do a great job
bryant 23/02/20 11:35 am Yeah, just mentioned that to her. She thinks
it's a good idea.
sam 23/02/20 11:37 am I want payment stuff, financial stuff in
there, new sites, old sites, new campaigns,
new ideas, etc.
Should we do it so its a newsletter.. or
should we do it like a egroups list so people
can actually respond (mailing list)
bryant 23/02/20 11:38 am Dunno. Lemme do a straw poll with the people
I deal with tomorrow and see what they think.
bryant 23/02/20 11:38 am Then again maybe that confuses the help desk
issue.
bryant 23/02/20 11:38 am We might want that to be the clear and only
vehicle for communication.
sam 23/02/20 11:38 am yeah.. plus if we dont respond or get
busy..they'l think we 're not communicating
bryant 23/02/20 11:39 am Yeah. Thinking about it now I think a one-way
newsletter is better. It can link to the
helpdesk address each time for questions,
comments, concern.
sam 23/02/20 11:39 am yeah.. we should do a nice html
newsletter..not the plain text stuff that bill
hodson used to send.. i never read that.. it
was junk :)
bryant 23/02/20 11:40 am Have to admit I didn't either.
sam 23/02/20 11:48 am Scott -Game Rankings: (7:44 PM) Lets talk
hosting for a minute. Right Now PSX Extreme
and I and VGS are all on the sam server. PSX
Extreme is moving out onto his own server. GR
and VGS can move onto his new server and pay
for hosting there instead of eFront paying for
a dedicated machine just for GR and VGS. Cost
would be $450 a month for hosting. I think
that is cheaper than what you are paying right
now for a dedicated machine. I am going
somewhere with this....
[do u know if psxextreme passed on us]
bryant 23/02/20 11:48 am Lemme look
bryant 23/02/20 11:49 am Yeah, they want out.
sam 23/02/20 11:49 am what was the last cpm we offered them.. 3?
bryant 23/02/20 11:50 am Brian is going to take them 2.5-3. So there's
still a shot.
sam 23/02/20 11:51 am are you amazed that we have most of the people
accepting @ 2 and such
bryant 23/02/20 11:52 am I've been pretty surprised, yeah.
bryant 23/02/20 11:52 am Glad really. More reasonable people than
non-.
sam 23/02/20 11:52 am so jarret is all okay huh.. what did he take..
2?
bryant 23/02/20 11:53 am Yep, .2
sam 23/02/20 11:53 am are most ppl taking backpay @ the end or
mixed?
bryant 23/02/20 11:54 am Mixed. Backpay at the end has been a
stumbling block almost every time.
sam 23/02/20 12:13 pm Tim loves the 75cent cpm idea for backpay idea
:)
sam 23/02/20 12:13 pm Once the contracts are done, if we need to
reduce our backpay or debt on the books, we
can offer that to more people.. or offer it to
people now even :)
sam 23/02/20 11:15 pm Swedie: (7:14 AM) Do you know when I will get
payed .. I mean that 50% of a month deal you
talked about that I'd be getting on the 19th
of Feb.
sam: (7:14 AM) yes.. monday/tuesday..
sam: (7:14 AM) hey let me fwd u to Will Bryant
now
sam: (7:14 AM) he's on
[demonews guy.. looking for contract
sam 25/02/20 9:12 am http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/50/16943.
tml
[harsha always said he could go to euniverse..
oh well]
sam 26/02/20 8:56 pm BLAMEj00: (4:54 AM) Doesn't this guy have some
kind of non-complete in his contract?
http://beautifulsavers.efront.com
Because these sites (and I'm sure others) sure
do look like they are done by the same guy
(just outside eFront).
http://www.beautifulbikini.com
http://www.elitesavers.com
http://www.fabuloussavers.com
http://celebritysavers.com
http://www.sexyfreeamateurs.com
iBLAMEj00: (4:54 AM) Actually, I checked and
they are all registered by the same guy, Gabor
Timis (same guy that's with eFront)? I'm sure
he has other sites too, but I think the plan
is to sell one to efront and promote the
others.
sam 26/02/20 8:56 pm tim sentme that..something to consider whenu
talk to gabor
sam 28/02/20 3:02 pm i believe Marc's last day is tomorrow
(voluntary resignation cuz of stress).. I hope
he find another job quickly. He was a good
asset. At the same we have s4r to do all the
tech stuff so that will help. We're going to
outsource our
hr/payroll/ar/ap/reporting/payables/etc. to
ledgent.com so we outsource that too.. to
streamline stuff.. do you have any experience
with firms like that
bryant 28/02/20 3:04 pm Sure don't. Only one I'm familiar with is
ADP, but I don't even know what services they
provide and being so large they probably
aren't very cost effective.
sam 28/02/20 3:06 pm ledgent uses adp too..so they'll continue to
do ourpayroll through adp.. but they're an
outsourced finance division..doing eerything a
to z.. uyou just fax them bills, invoices,
etc. and they put it all together. i had to
cut bill's pay by 30%..and he said he'd have
to find another job.. isaid i can
understand..but i cant afford to accrue salary
anymore.. we'll pay u full amount w/ payroll
and thats it..so he'll start looking around
but be professional and help us through
this..and we're going to look @ ledgent i
think
bryant 28/02/20 3:09 pm Ledgent sounds good.
sam 28/02/20 3:10 pm i just read mame's 'you have 30 mins' hehe..
like we'd respond for sure then :)
bryant 28/02/20 3:11 pm Yeah, heh. I called them on saying we hadn't
spoken since the first day, they claimed no
other emails had gone back and forth so I
found and forwarded some. They've been oddly
quiet about it since.
bryant 28/02/20 3:11 pm I've laid out what we can offer them again, so
we'll see what they get back with. I
literally half suspect a week from now we'll
get another crazy email saying they're being
ignored.
sam 28/02/20 3:12 pm i think they'll accept.. what choices do they
have
bryant 28/02/20 3:12 pm Not many. I think they probably will too to
be honest.
sam 28/02/20 3:12 pm thats why i said.. hey ill talk to them.. i
would basically say.. hey i understand
blahblah..but market sucks.. do u have any
better choices? i'd like to find out myself..
bryant 28/02/20 3:13 pm Think about Hebus at all? I don't know how
important that one is (it seems to be a
need-to-keep'er), and he's made it clear he
can't accept even a 2.5. Thoughts on what to
do with him? His biggest issue is getting
monthly $ up and sustaining that.
sam 28/02/20 3:14 pm oh ya.. i forgot.. lots going on.. lemme see.
sam 28/02/20 3:14 pm we probalby need to get him on icq
sam 28/02/20 3:14 pm chat conf
sam 28/02/20 3:14 pm because i think the only way is to
sam 28/02/20 3:14 pm keep talking him down
sam 28/02/20 3:14 pm money is money
sam 28/02/20 3:15 pm there's not too many choices
sam 28/02/20 3:15 pm i want to say..
look hi-media kicked us out
sam 28/02/20 3:15 pm your click-thru sucks
sam 28/02/20 3:15 pm maybe you advertise on the english
version..and we'll take the french version
sam 28/02/20 3:15 pm we're losing lots of money on ur site
bryant 28/02/20 3:15 pm Yep. He's around most of the afternoon, it
might be effective for me to pull both of you
into an ICQ chat and you can talk a bit. Make
him feel important, he's getting the CEO, etc.
etc.
sam 28/02/20 3:16 pm yeah.. just keep talking him down mostly.. and
say.. hey incrase your unique users..
sam 28/02/20 3:16 pm we're not capping it at 1600/month
sam 28/02/20 3:16 pm increase your unique users..and that helps
both of us
sam 28/02/20 3:16 pm and we should show him our own french
celebrity site we did in a day
sam 28/02/20 3:16 pm as a back up :)
sam 28/02/20 3:16 pm to say we might let him walk
bryant 28/02/20 3:17 pm Is that what he is? I've never actually seen
his site. Only time I loaded it was when it
was back up briefly.
sam 28/02/20 3:18 pm well wallpapers mostly
sam 28/02/20 3:19 pm http://megagames.com/ps2/
harsha still has his own click-xchange
affiliates.. sigh
sam 28/02/20 3:19 pm ('win a ps2')
bryant 28/02/20 3:19 pm You anticipate the ranks are going to thin a
lot more in the near term?
sam 28/02/20 3:19 pm you mean employees?
sam 28/02/20 3:19 pm its mostly under our control.. who we want to
let go or not
bryant 28/02/20 3:19 pm Yeah. You mentioned Jon maybe playing a
backup in case of one departure. Just
wondering what the general tone is out there.
sam 28/02/20 3:20 pm its actually pretty good here
sam 28/02/20 3:20 pm they're all happy we're doing this
sam 28/02/20 3:20 pm something everyone agrees with
sam 28/02/20 3:20 pm we're not killing revenue generating stuff or
mission critical stuff
sam 28/02/20 3:20 pm just the fat
sam 28/02/20 3:20 pm they all said that sam you shouldve done it a
month ago
sam 28/02/20 3:20 pm oh you mean Jon is looking around?
bryant 28/02/20 3:20 pm Cool. I'm not surprised I guess that Marc
ended up leaving. Obviously he's been
somewhat unhappy for some time.
sam 28/02/20 3:21 pm yeah.. i already had marc crossed out in my
financials i did this past weekend
sam 28/02/20 3:21 pm cuz iknew he would.. and it was okay..cuz we
didnt really needhim
sam 28/02/20 3:21 pm since we have s4r
sam 28/02/20 3:21 pm g3 was panicking a little
sam 28/02/20 3:21 pm i said no.. stop.. use helpdesk.. fwd to
s4r..simple
bryant 28/02/20 3:21 pm Heh.
sam 28/02/20 3:22 pm he was like oh they wouldnt want to etc. i
said were paying them a pretty penny.. let
themearn it
sam 28/02/20 3:22 pm none of the people that left, we are going to
replace
sam 28/02/20 3:22 pm only one a layoff technically
sam 28/02/20 3:22 pm so strategic reductions ;)
sam 28/02/20 3:22 pm most of them think its their choice..:)
bryant 28/02/20 3:23 pm That's usually the best scenario for everyone.
Mutual breakup.
sam 28/02/20 3:23 pm http://www.babe-site.com/babes/
bryant 28/02/20 3:24 pm Heh, funny how simple those sites are and how
much traffic they move.