sam 04/02/20 7:39 am you know if we deal w/ everyone @ once, we're
likely to risk class action.. and news posts
sam 04/02/20 7:39 am if we send mass emails
sam 04/02/20 7:39 am dont u think
sam 04/02/20 7:39 am also, we have to remind them that 100k/month
is used for servers, bandwidth, technical
resources
sam 04/02/20 7:40 am so theoreticlly, we're allocating 250k for
them
bryant 04/02/20 7:40 am Raises the risk, certainly. They communicate
enough with one another though that there may
be a greater risk to take that to them
individually and they figure out that it's
everyone.
bryant 04/02/20 7:40 am Thinking about it though, mass emails are a
bad idea.
sam 04/02/20 7:40 am ya i wouldnt risk mass emails.. eeee
sam 04/02/20 7:40 am however,
sam 04/02/20 7:40 am if we have a good plan and stuff
sam 04/02/20 7:41 am we can immobilize like 10 of our people
sam 04/02/20 7:41 am and divide up the webmater list
sam 04/02/20 7:41 am with the same consistent plan
sam 04/02/20 7:41 am so they dont have to negotiate
sam 04/02/20 7:41 am but rather persuade
bryant 04/02/20 7:41 am What this means of course is that we'll lose
the good sites and keep the weak ones.
bryant 04/02/20 7:41 am Strong sites will go off and test the market.
May well come back, but they'll go.
sam 04/02/20 7:41 am we'll make exceptions for strong site
sam 04/02/20 7:42 am and try to get the weak sites to below 2.5
sam 04/02/20 7:42 am so we average 2.5
sam 04/02/20 7:43 am that means like megagames makes 15k instead of
30k
sam 04/02/20 7:43 am not too bad
bryant 04/02/20 7:44 am Here's an example of where our problems will
be. Babynames has 759k viewers. Even at a
10cpmU it's less than 1/2 where she is now.
Put her at a 5 it's $3795.00, at 3 it's
$2277.00.
sam 04/02/20 7:44 am yeah i see .. she was an expensive site huh
sam 04/02/20 7:44 am well, we might have to make an exception for
her
bryant 04/02/20 7:45 am Lemme go through and plug that model in to see
where it works nicely and where we'll have
snags.
bryant 04/02/20 7:45 am I've got all the data in front of me.
sam 04/02/20 7:45 am perfect.. im going through the stuff too..
just thinking
bryant 04/02/20 7:45 am Only thing I'm missing is what we pay some of
these guys now. But hopefully Bill will have
something on that this week.
sam 04/02/20 7:46 am i can help u w/ that if u need somehting
sam 04/02/20 7:46 am did you ever get the esimtation from bill that
was sent like 2-3 weeks ago
bryant 04/02/20 7:46 am For Megagames it would actually be a good
model. 6MM viewers would be $15k as you said.
That's not too bad.
sam 04/02/20 7:50 am works good for altavista too
sam 04/02/20 8:06 am did you get the email concerning astalavista
sam 04/02/20 8:14 am guess what
sam 04/02/20 8:14 am i got someone to bite already
sam 04/02/20 8:15 am on $2 cpm
sam 04/02/20 8:15 am big site
sam 04/02/20 8:36 am should we make the monthly payout variable?
meaning that up or down, $1 to $2.5 cpm on the
dialy uniques.. or should we keep the same
scale
sam 04/02/20 8:36 am and have a max
sam 04/02/20 8:45 am Moreaulf: (4:43 PM) Hi sam.
It's going allright. the $500 saved me for
this month.
Exitpopup running on the new datacenter
Gamepages under move now.
How's it going for you? eFront?
sam: (4:43 PM) its going okay.. really
difficult.. ad market is very bad.. even
valueclick is not taking more clients
sam: (4:44 PM) we probably have to renegotiate
everyones contracts..or we wont be able to
survive
sam: (4:44 PM) :/
Moreaulf: (4:44 PM) I hear it from all over :(
Feels like it's no use not even having banners
on the pages somehow. It cost more than it
gives to try get
sam 04/02/20 8:46 am [this is the way im approaching things.. and
lot of sympathetic ears out there]
sam 05/02/20 12:48 am any thoughts on the email? i was going to add
ac ouple more things but wanted to run it by u
sam 05/02/20 1:49 am iBLAMEj00: (9:45 AM) I got 0.63% CTR with cj
and .52% with valueclick.
iBLAMEj00: (9:45 AM) How about just make it
required that ads can't be placed at the top
or the bottom.
sam 05/02/20 1:53 am oops to the wrong person
sam 05/02/20 7:04 am were u able to talk to brian this weekend
bryant 05/02/20 7:07 am No, he hasn't been on. I sent him some ICQs
and emails, but not sure if he got them.
Going to see if I can track him down tomorrow
so I can go over strategem at least on the
sites he has.
sam 05/02/20 7:08 am ive done 3 sites already.. easy
sam 05/02/20 7:09 am one of the webmasters wants to work for us
$200/month or so.. so i asked him to
renegotiate .. and ill give him some euroipean
sites.. he's excited..then afterwards, he'll
work for g3 and deploy stuff..anything.. just
go in the website code and change stuff when
we need to
sam 05/02/20 7:10 am i just need to get a contract ready i think
sam 05/02/20 7:21 am we're very close on megagames.. tim & i are
working.. he agreed to $ /unique.. just
getting the price lower.
mame.dk would probably agree to it too
sam 05/02/20 12:11 pm we have a sweet proposal we're working out w/
harsha:)
sam 06/02/20 12:20 pm please give me a recap of todays negotiations
sam 06/02/20 12:47 pm but anyways, to recap, here's how i want the
contracts to incorporate the backpay:
1. Retroactive with the new schedule until
they got paid last.
2. Take it as lump sum thats payable @ the end
of their contract.
If they doint agree to new payment terms, here
are the options:
1. They can walk -- no hard feelings; we're
even. We'll provide another month or so of
free hosting.
2. They can take the banners and we do the
non-banner creatives + free hosting
I want all contracts to began @ no later than
feb 1.
Basically, tell them that if we don't get
everyone's cooperationg, we might have to file
Chapter 11 because the market has changed and
we cant be in business if our expenses are
higher than what banner revrenues make. It's
worse out there then they think; even
valueclick wont accept new customers.
sam 08/02/20 6:48 am update?
bryant 08/02/20 9:20 am Beyond the numbers I told you yesterday,
AthlonOC wants out, theSeek, Riva3D, Classical
and Astalavista seem to want to stay.
sam 08/02/20 10:03 am we'll accomodate athoc most likely
sam 08/02/20 1:14 pm i had a few q's toi ask u about the addendum
sam 08/02/20 1:14 pm almost done getting them drafted
sam 09/02/20 6:42 pm hey
sam 10/02/20 1:14 am are you there? btw, almost done w/ the
addendum.. need to have it proofed.
Will, we have another deal structure that came
up.. you might want to take a look at it.
bryant 10/02/20 1:35 am Yeah, where is it?
sam 10/02/20 1:49 am basically, the deal came up w/ freeskills.com
been working with andy
sam 10/02/20 1:49 am they had 100k and they were just going to ride
it out and not budge
sam 10/02/20 1:52 am after a long battle, this was agreed to:
sam 10/02/20 1:52 am * no ipo clause, no returning the site, no $$
back to them, no monthly payments to them,
they dont work on the site anymore
* we give them a % of the site's revenue as
royalty forever (5%)
sam 10/02/20 1:53 am what do u think of that structure :)
bryant 10/02/20 1:53 am I always get a little fidgety around the term
"forever" in contracts, but other than that
it's a pretty sweet deal.
sam 10/02/20 1:54 am i agree.. but its like software royalty or
something.. perpetualy royalty
sam 10/02/20 1:54 am the sites that want to walk, maybe we dcan
throw this at them
bryant 10/02/20 1:54 am Yeah, I agree. I think it's a great deal.
bryant 10/02/20 1:54 am Heh, for us anyway.
sam 10/02/20 1:55 am i know.. andy and i were fighting with them
all morning.. theyre making my bronchtitis
worse:)
sam 10/02/20 1:55 am and they suggested it.. and i told andy
great.. pounce on it right away :)
bryant 10/02/20 1:55 am Heh, a little slice of my life there!
Bronchitis is fun stuff.
sam 10/02/20 1:55 am its getting really bad.. hard to breathe.. and
lot of coughing
sam 10/02/20 1:56 am did yours ever go away?
bryant 10/02/20 1:56 am Yeah, I basically perpetually have it.
sam 10/02/20 1:56 am oh really
bryant 10/02/20 1:56 am It goes away here and there if I take antis,
but only for a week or so. Then it's back.
sam 10/02/20 1:56 am i havent seen a doctor yet.. maybe i should
bryant 10/02/20 1:56 am Oh yeah.
bryant 10/02/20 1:57 am I don't mess around with that stuff anymore.
All my problems started with the flu. I blew
it off and it snowballed. =)
bryant 10/02/20 1:57 am Steam helps a lot. So if it gets real bad
take a hot shower or bath.
sam 10/02/20 1:58 am i just did .. i feel better.. btw, i think it
bronchtitis.. whats the symptoms
bryant 10/02/20 1:59 am You can feel it down in your chest/bronchial
tubes. It almost feels like you've sucked a
little water down, esp when you take a deep
breath. Lots of coughing, difficulty
breathing, sometimes you lose you voice a bit.
bryant 10/02/20 1:59 am You can either be coughing stuff up or not.
bryant 10/02/20 2:00 am Doc will put you on Amoxicillin or Biaxin or
something. Should clear up in a few days.
bryant 10/02/20 2:00 am They don't have the first clue how to beat
mine. Mostly because they have no idea what's
causing it.
sam 10/02/20 2:01 am that sounds like mine.. i cant develop it in 2
days can i ?
sam 10/02/20 2:02 am i should go to the doc today
bryant 10/02/20 2:02 am Only real danger is bronchitis turning into
pneumonia. Other than that it's just a pain
in the ass.
sam 10/02/20 2:02 am after i get u the addendum:)
bryant 10/02/20 2:02 am Oh sure - any cold or flu can turn quickly
into it.
bryant 10/02/20 2:02 am Tons of water helps too.
bryant 10/02/20 2:02 am Heh.
sam 10/02/20 2:03 am my heater in the apartment sux too
sam 10/02/20 2:03 am when its on i cant breathe
sam 10/02/20 2:04 am maybe it has bacteria?
bryant 10/02/20 2:04 am What kind of heater?
bryant 10/02/20 2:04 am Is it also a humidifier of any sort?
sam 10/02/20 2:06 am no.. just central heating
bryant 10/02/20 2:08 am Hard to say. Could just be the dry air
though. I can't go to the mall, movie
theaters or anything like that - dry air shuts
me down instantly. Last movie I saw was
Remember the Titans, literally took me a week
to recover.
bryant 10/02/20 2:08 am Make sure to tell the doc about the breathing
problems with the hot air on.
sam 10/02/20 2:08 am really? wow.. and i was actually enjoying
benig sick so i get to stay home for the first
time in forever
bryant 10/02/20 2:09 am Heh
sam 10/02/20 2:09 am i should really take care of this thing then
sam 10/02/20 2:09 am secretly, i was wishing it got worse:)
bryant 10/02/20 2:09 am Heh
bryant 10/02/20 2:09 am As long as it doesn't stick around forever
that wouldn't be too bad.
sam 10/02/20 2:10 am ok i msged drazen to pick me up to go to the
doctor.. let me get the addendum over. any
other updates on the other sies?
bryant 10/02/20 2:10 am Nothing huge, most everyone is willing to stay
happily. I'm trying to knock out BabyNames
and maybe SomethingAwful today.
sam 10/02/20 2:10 am oh btw, jerry was telling me SA wants to work
for us
sam 10/02/20 2:11 am and i told jerry then Will can do a two in one
deal
sam 10/02/20 2:11 am make him an employee and his site comes along
bryant 10/02/20 2:11 am Asta is willing to take a $ cut, have to deal
with him over email - phone call didn't go so
well. Neither one of us knew what the other
was saying.
sam 10/02/20 2:11 am and jerry said it would take some doing but it
could be doable
sam 10/02/20 2:11 am hehe
bryant 10/02/20 2:11 am OK, I'll put some thought into how that might
work with SA.
sam 10/02/20 2:11 am i definitely wnanna keep asta.. great unique
sam 10/02/20 2:11 am i thought about this for SA:
bryant 10/02/20 2:11 am Yeah, he seems to want to stay.
sam 10/02/20 2:12 am 25k uniques * 30 = 750k * 2.5cpm = 1600
add another 2000 or something for salary
3600/month or even 4000/month = 48k/year w/
benefits
sam 10/02/20 2:12 am that way we can pay him more than what we'd
pay him normally
bryant 10/02/20 2:12 am Do we have an idea of what he would be doing?
sam 10/02/20 2:13 am ill fwd uy the msg from jerry
bryant 10/02/20 2:13 am ok cool.
sam 10/02/20 2:30 am does that give u an idea of how jerry wants to
use him? im not sure if it will work myself..
sam 10/02/20 2:30 am but hey we reduce the $
sam 10/02/20 2:31 am are u sure his contract says 2cpm?
bryant 10/02/20 2:31 am It doesn't say that, but it works out to that.
sam 10/02/20 2:32 am 6 million pageviews and 12k/month?
bryant 10/02/20 2:32 am 8m/16k a month I think.
sam 10/02/20 8:43 am hey came back form the doc..long line..they
gave me medicine..
sam 10/02/20 8:43 am coughs died down a little bit:) just been on
the phone collectinng, etc.
sam 10/02/20 8:44 am ill send u the addendum soonnn.. :) btw, scott
p. is working on 4-5 deals (ad contracts) and
maybe you can take the sites assigned to him
and divide it between u and brian if you guys
are on pace alrady
sam 10/02/20 8:44 am since u guys are on pace..and we dont want to
teach him about all this in a short time..and
i'd rather he concentrate on revenues..and u
guys are making good progress alread
bryant 10/02/20 8:45 am Yeah, no problem at all. Was he on the
spreadsheet you sent or was it just Brian,
myself you and Tim?
sam 10/02/20 8:45 am he was on it too
bryant 10/02/20 8:45 am OK cool. I'll coordinate with Brian and we'll
split those up. Revenues are good.
sam 10/02/20 8:46 am yeah.. im having him pursue ad networks and
about.com type of deads.. he's having good
luck with b2bworks.com, engageb2b, and
work.com.. the hot deals
sam 10/02/20 8:48 am Bman: (4:46 PM) I have been swapping calls
with a lawyer type who wants to help us settle
our payables. I want to offer 10% to akamai,
alexa, global center, maybe cais and a couple
others.
sam: (4:47 PM) how much doe he want?
sam: (4:48 PM) btw, Will Bryant seems very
good at that kind of stuff.. maybe he can do
that, if the lawyer wants too much
[you might want to talk to Bill S. to see if
its something u can do :]
bryant 10/02/20 8:50 am Will do. Might be worth trying in-house
before we pay an atty.
sam 10/02/20 10:54 am can u give me joanna's icq
sam 10/02/20 10:54 am (im @ home)
sam 13/02/20 8:26 am will i added lkanguage to cancel
ipo-outclauses
sam 13/02/20 8:27 am did you see that
bryant 13/02/20 8:28 am Yeah, it looks good - although we may have to
doctor that a bit for some people. BabyNames
for example wants to retain an out in the
event of a BK.
sam 13/02/20 8:28 am yup.. no prob
bryant 13/02/20 8:28 am Like the clause though - for the most part it
means less doctoring on the individual deals.
sam 13/02/20 8:28 am can u handle that (doctoring it up for special
cases)
also, we want to stricken out all the IPO
money
bryant 13/02/20 8:29 am Certainly.
sam 13/02/20 8:30 am im trying to get a hold of the about guys..
we're going to accept their last offer @ 215k
(they owe us double that).. cuz we dont have
time.. and payroll is due:)
sam 13/02/20 8:30 am so we should be getting that out soon as well
bryant 14/02/20 8:24 am I've got something on SA - want me to run
through it real quick?
sam 14/02/20 8:24 am yes
bryant 14/02/20 8:25 am We can have him FT plus have him continue
working on SA (both during and more outside
the normal workday) for a little less than $6k
a month.
bryant 14/02/20 8:25 am It basically works out to $24k a year for the
site, $45k a year for the employment.
bryant 14/02/20 8:25 am But it would all be rolled in together
obviously, so figure $5750 a month.
sam 14/02/20 8:26 am well what if he doesnt work out as an
employeee.. meaning we're taking a chance that
he will. so i'd prefer to do 2 agreements..
one for website
and one for employment
bryant 14/02/20 8:27 am We can do that too. 24k and 45k. We might
have to put some extra protections in for him
that way (in case he gets fired, etc.). As is
he's coming down from 16k to 5.75k, if we
fired him he'd go from 16k to 2k.
bryant 14/02/20 8:28 am But I think we can do that.
sam 14/02/20 8:29 am thats still 70k/year.. did you try to pitch
the 48k.. what did he say to that
bryant 14/02/20 8:29 am He's highly motivated to try and help the
company, be a liaison with the webmasters,
help effect positive improvements across the
board, etc. So my feeling is he's going to be
a real asset.
bryant 14/02/20 8:29 am He feels that's 24k a year to work FT or close
to FT and he can't justify that.
sam 14/02/20 8:30 am i just want to make sure we can pay ppl.. im
cutting back on a few more ppl this week
sam 14/02/20 8:31 am i had let Randy, one of the sales guys go
yesterday.. but he begged to be stayed..saying
he has 2 i/os coming in.. he did get one done
today...so he has short stay
sam 14/02/20 8:31 am our other webmaster relations people dont
really make 45k.. for example, alex makes
24k/year.. and pinocho less.
how about this. 2$ cpm on uniques on his site
+ 35k/year job
sam 14/02/20 8:32 am which is the range we're paying webmaster
relations people
sam 14/02/20 8:32 am and we're doing that as a favor to put more $
in his pocket
sam 14/02/20 8:32 am not just as a job
bryant 14/02/20 8:32 am Well, it's all to be determined really, but I
see him as more than just webmaster relations.
sam 14/02/20 8:32 am everyone else we're not offering this
sam 14/02/20 8:33 am he could very well be.. and if he does great
for us, then he woulc get a raise like
everyone else
sam 14/02/20 8:33 am g3 started out at 36k and got a raise
bryant 14/02/20 8:33 am I know Jerry met with him, I don't know what
they discussed in terms of exactly what he'd
be doing.
bryant 14/02/20 8:34 am Hmm, how about 35k for a trial period then,
you can define certain benchmarks, if he meets
them he goes to 40, 45 and perhaps 50.
bryant 14/02/20 8:34 am That way he's at 35 now, but he has a vested
interest and opportunity to climb higher based
upon metrics you define?
sam 14/02/20 8:34 am well, the benchmarks are all subjective.. its
obvious when someone becomes an asset.. for
example, g3
sam 14/02/20 8:34 am he'll be entitled to raises.. and we have a
precedence for giving people raises if they
really help increase our bottom line in many
areas
sam 14/02/20 8:35 am i dont want to set a false expectations where
he'll feel entitled to it.. then he'll be
unhappy.. based on subjective evaluation
bryant 14/02/20 8:36 am Yeah, different people different skillsets. I
can only speak so intelligently about the
skillsets of g3 and Rich. I do know that
where g3 lacks is interpersonal
relations/people skills and that's an area
Rich excels in. They both have other skills
with positives and negatives each. g3 for
example is a great organizer, Rich may not be
- don't know.
bryant 14/02/20 8:37 am Basically he's come to these figures based
upon what he feels he needs to sustain his
quality of life and be able to work towards a
gradual improvement.
bryant 14/02/20 8:37 am I'll take 24k/35k to him, just want you to
have the big picture as he relayed it to me.
=)